Comments on: The prosperity gospel: where credulity meets guile

By: Suzy

Suzy — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 04:07:13 +0000

This is what the Prosperity Gospel has down to the Body of Christ!
1). It has introduced greed, materialism, pride and vain-glory into our midst.

2). People who have internalized this Prosperity Gospel are now blaming the hurting, the sick and they’re despises the poor.

3) This teaching makes people forget how long David ran from Saul & had to hide in Caves. They also forget how long Jacob’s favorite son Joseph was held captive in prison and how long it took Abraham to have his promised son Issac.

4). Like Modern day friends of Job- they blame the poor or the sick for a lack of faith or some secret sin instead of realizing that we live in a fallen world and that Jesus said the bible said “All the live godly will suffer persecution.

5). They have reduced Jesus to Santa Claus, slot machine and lottery ticket.

6). This positive confession is crap!

By: DTM

DTM — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 03:57:39 +0000

Matthew 23:23
“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law–justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

Jesus was talking to Jews who were still under the Mosaic law because he had not yet gone to the Cross to fulfill the law. SO I WISH THEY WOULD QUIT USING THIS BIBLE VERSE TO MANDATE MANDATORY TITHING. Why aren’t you tithe mandators also not keeping the Sabbath law and did you have a Priest circumcise your sons on the eighth day of their lives. When was the last time you all bought a lamb without defect to sacrifice? Also put the ham down on Thanksgiving and give up the Pork. These were also Old Testament laws too. Think People Think! Learn what Grace is-a free gift paid in full by Jesus on the Cross!

By: Sand

Sand — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 03:49:40 +0000

“Galatians 3:11
“So it is clear that no one can be made right with God by trying to keep the law. For the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.”

Galatians 3:10
All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”

Romans 8:32
“He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things?”

Hebrews 7: 28
Moses’ Teachings designated mortals as chief priests even though they had weaknesses. But God’s promise, which came after Moses’ Teachings, designated the Son who forever accomplished everything that God required.

Hebrew 8:6
“But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises”.
Explanation is Jesus is the better covenant he offers free grace without a cash payment. God was pleased with the payment Jesus made on the Cross. Now we are freed from trying to earn favor and have been given Unmerited favor. Preachers be honest and teach us how to voluntarily give without pressure for God loves a cheerful giver (notice it did not say payer)!

By: doesntmatter

doesntmatter — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:30:53 +0000

This is for BFBF

Finally We all agree on something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The problem with the followers of these people is clearly doctrinal ignorance. Trust when I say I hate these motherfuckers (neckbone & hoopandholla), and yes God hates them as well.

I think your language is offensive and unnecessary, but you have that First Admenment right. However, since you are soooooooo good at quoting Scripture how do you support your claim “and yes God hates them as well.” You think making ignorant statments makes you better that the people you diss or worse?? Yes. That’s a question–just in case you were wondering. It’s people like you that need you check yourself before you check others. Here’s a bible verse to back that up Matthew 7:3

I’m not going to even get into tithing, but I hope you did the world a favor by learning something today.

By: BFBF

BFBF — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:42:05 +0000

OK!

Finally We all agree on something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The problem with the followers of these people is clearly doctrinal ignorance. Trust when I say I hate these motherfuckers (neckbone & hoopandholla), and yes God hates them as well.

Michael Gompertz said:
“I love the way Congress

By: vernetta northcutt

vernetta northcutt — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:08:48 +0000

I agree with the person who said that people need to be taught how to think critically. I also believe that the televangelists should be taxed as businesses. If people want to buy what these people are selling, these purveyors of wealth should have the right to sell their wares–even if these wares are under the guise of religion. However, it is unfair to other businesses when these prosperity televangelists are allowed to “sell” their product–in this case “Religion”–tax free. As long as this is a free-market society, people have the right to buy what is legally permitted by the government–and that includes prosperity religion.

By: Nietzsche

Nietzsche — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:45:46 +0000

I like to call these people, only on my cell phone, because if they get your home phone they never leave you alone, and I tell them what they are! MONEY GRUBBING MOTHER-F–kers!!!!!

By: jemand

jemand — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:07:39 +0000

yeah… I wonder whether it would be possible to convince these people they are, in fact, STEALING. That when you are 100,000 dollars in debt, and are drawing out more lines of credit to give even more to the church while simultaneously considering bankruptcy, you are, in fact, a THIEF. The fact you’re giving the proceeds away, doesn’t change that.

Giving away debt money does NOT a generous person make. That actually isn’t your money. Giving away money BEFORE you go into debt, now then you can consider yourself legitimately generous.

By: Bob Ritter

Bob Ritter — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:12:55 +0000

Brother Gompertz comment that then Senator Obama was a co-sponsor of the legislation allowing a debtor to tithe 15% of his or her income while going thru bankruptcy is but one more example that President Obama is a big disappointment when it comes to separation of church and state. He’s doing as much if not more damage to the First Amendment than King George did — just not wearing fundamentalism on the sleeve. Perhaps Obama is a closet fundamentalist.

By: Michael Gompertz

Michael Gompertz — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:36:43 +0000

This is such an obvious perversion of Christianity that you would think normal Christians would publicly denounce the Copeland message as heresy. But very few do. We should be talking to our Christian friends about this. Why don’t they speak out against the prosperity preachers? We should encourage them to do this.

Look how our legal system protects the prosperity gospel. First, the prosperity preachers have a First Amendment right to preach their message and no one can sue the preacher for false and deceptive business practices. (Actually, anyone can sue anyone–but the suit would be dismissed on First Amendment grounds.) Second, Copeland’s organization is tax-exempt and would not have to file an annual Information Return (Form 990) if it is classified as a “church” (most tax-exempt organizations file IRS Form 990).

Third, when a follower of Copeland files for chapter 13 bankruptcy (I am thinking about the trucker mentioned in the article whose debt exceeds $100,000), he or she can tithe up to 15 percent of GROSS income earned while in bankruptcy, thereby ensuring that creditors receive “pennies on the dollar.” Senators Obama and Hatch sponsored a 2006 bankruptcy law amendment that guarantees the right of the debtor to tithe as much as 15 percent of gross income. The credit card companies should have objected, but they didn’t because they knew this bill was sure to be enacted no matter what they did. I am no defender of the credit card companies, but this is ridiculous. The whole point of chapter 13 bankruptcy is that the debtor pays as much of his or her debts as possible while being allowed to keep the car and the house. I love the way Congress “improved” the Bible (which speaks of a 10 percent tithe, not a 15 percent tithe).

By: Fred Edwords

Fred Edwords — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:46:52 +0000

This isn’t just about the Copelands. The late Reverend Ike was recently mourned in the media though he too was a prosperity gospel preacher. I attended one of his presentations in San Diego back in the 1970s. He was most entertaining the way he showed off his bling and gave a humorous pep talk full of memorable motivational quips, but he was also, in my view, a scam artist. And worse, his target victims were black people. He allowed them to feel wealthy, vicariously, and they made him very rich, in reality, for that. This was exploitation at its very worst, dressed up in cleverly-designed entertainment. And after all this, Jet magazine wants us to remember him fondly. No thanks!

By: An Earthling from Mi.

An Earthling from Mi. — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:21:33 +0000

People seem to think they can buy their way into Heaven by giving to these Ministries, it’s mans nature to follow the loudest and the proudest, regardless of his real intentions, give him a microphone and a camera and he can reach millions, like they say, a sucker is born every day, in this case, a thousand suckers are born every minute, and we allow them to indoctrinate our children without question, keep in mind, a shepherd owns it’s flock, shaves them bald, profits from them, then eats them!